1 00:01:09,390 --> 00:00:23,940 [Music] 2 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:11,820 and good afternoon from Philadelphia 3 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:14,170 Frank here with another episode of UFO 4 00:01:18,450 --> 00:01:16,960 news network Sunday and today we've got 5 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:18,460 a very special guest 6 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:20,920 Christopher Bledsoe he's going to be 7 00:01:25,950 --> 00:01:23,770 discussing his experiences with the UFO 8 00:01:28,580 --> 00:01:25,960 phenomenon and some of the people who 9 00:01:31,050 --> 00:01:28,590 are also very much interested in it and 10 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:31,060 he's taken a little bit of a break from 11 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:32,890 doing interviews and he's back and he's 12 00:01:36,590 --> 00:01:35,110 back with us so Chris welcome to the 13 00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:36,600 show how are you today 14 00:01:44,010 --> 00:01:41,950 I'm great Frank thank you well yep 15 00:01:45,750 --> 00:01:44,020 so far so good we're ready to go the 16 00:01:47,310 --> 00:01:45,760 stream looks healthy yeah we always like 17 00:01:49,650 --> 00:01:47,320 it there when there are no technical 18 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:49,660 difficulties so let's get right down to 19 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:51,610 it Chris let's not beat around the bush 20 00:01:56,070 --> 00:01:53,650 now you've taken a little bit of a break 21 00:01:58,050 --> 00:01:56,080 from doing interviews and now you're 22 00:02:00,090 --> 00:01:58,060 back in that can you explain to the 23 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:00,100 folks at home a little bit why you took 24 00:02:03,570 --> 00:02:01,990 the break in the first place and why 25 00:02:07,910 --> 00:02:03,580 you're back now with that nice enough to 26 00:02:11,490 --> 00:02:07,920 come on our show well that's kind of 27 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:11,500 kind of has more than one part the 28 00:02:18,410 --> 00:02:15,190 reason I took a break the main reason I 29 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:18,420 guess or two main reasons was that I 30 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:22,510 don't like speculating and in this UFO 31 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:26,080 world there's everybody speculates they 32 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:28,510 they have every idea in the book of what 33 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:31,450 we're dealing with and really most of 34 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:33,700 the speculation is unfounded they don't 35 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:38,980 have the experiences so for for me and 36 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:43,030 my family has been ever increasing the 37 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:46,690 the activity is has been off the charts 38 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:50,380 and I've able I'm able to document it 39 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:53,760 and a lot of people know this and so I'm 40 00:02:58,770 --> 00:02:56,170 trying to figure this thing out for 41 00:03:02,190 --> 00:02:58,780 myself and I just don't want to 42 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:02,200 speculate to to the public of claiming 43 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:04,180 one thing when it's something different 44 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:07,230 and two I've been involved in a 45 00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:09,760 Hollywood project for the better part of 46 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:13,720 seven years and it's gotten fairly 47 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:17,530 serious with serious people and they've 48 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:20,440 asked me not to be public a whole lot so 49 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:22,310 it's really 50 00:03:31,510 --> 00:03:28,010 the main reason that kind of been in the 51 00:03:33,010 --> 00:03:31,520 lot in the shadows and why is the time 52 00:03:33,970 --> 00:03:33,020 right for you to come back and start 53 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:33,980 talking again 54 00:03:40,510 --> 00:03:37,820 well dr. silca is involved in this 55 00:03:43,180 --> 00:03:40,520 dr. Diana purse office she's involved in 56 00:03:47,290 --> 00:03:43,190 the tub in a series that we're kind of 57 00:03:49,780 --> 00:03:47,300 working on and we were both not talking 58 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:49,790 about this at all until her book was 59 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:53,290 published this past year February and 60 00:03:59,710 --> 00:03:57,080 the studio thought it was or the writers 61 00:04:03,490 --> 00:03:59,720 thought it was okay now that I could 62 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:03,500 start talking a little bit and and so 63 00:04:08,979 --> 00:04:07,130 that's basically why I'm out just poking 64 00:04:13,949 --> 00:04:08,989 my head up it's not that I'm gonna do 65 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:18,610 got it and with the show right now you 66 00:04:21,819 --> 00:04:19,730 had mentioned to me when we spoke 67 00:04:25,210 --> 00:04:21,829 earlier that this is going to be a 68 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:25,220 dramatization not a documentary can you 69 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:29,330 talk a little bit about that yeah a 70 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:35,120 little bit is it's a television series 71 00:04:43,540 --> 00:04:39,550 based on a true story and the way is 72 00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:43,550 working is is dr. four circles involved 73 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:47,270 in her book and basically my family and 74 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:51,590 my life story and how we met how she and 75 00:04:58,090 --> 00:04:54,470 I came across one another many years ago 76 00:05:00,010 --> 00:04:58,100 and the interaction with her students 77 00:05:04,570 --> 00:05:00,020 coming she would bring students to the 78 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:04,580 house and a lot of stuff we she's a 79 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:08,050 study partner and a real good one and 80 00:05:13,690 --> 00:05:11,810 that's that's kind of all I can say I 81 00:05:16,030 --> 00:05:13,700 don't want to say who's doing it but 82 00:05:18,969 --> 00:05:16,040 it's some of the biggest folks in all of 83 00:05:20,980 --> 00:05:18,979 Hollywood and if it does go into 84 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:20,990 production they're thinking it'll be 85 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:23,930 three or four years and maybe twelve 86 00:05:29,610 --> 00:05:27,710 episodes a year yes that's what I'm 87 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:29,620 hearing 88 00:05:35,740 --> 00:05:33,890 understood all I can say now are you and 89 00:05:39,610 --> 00:05:35,750 dr. for soccer 90 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:39,620 spazz initially at a conference if I 91 00:05:46,420 --> 00:05:43,910 remember her account accurately that you 92 00:05:48,730 --> 00:05:46,430 were having these experience and already 93 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:48,740 out there as sharing it with folks and 94 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:50,810 can you tell us a little bit about that 95 00:06:00,510 --> 00:05:53,930 initial meeting yeah I think this was 96 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:00,520 like in 20 2011 2011 when we met or 12 I 97 00:06:06,490 --> 00:06:03,890 had been very quiet for five years and 98 00:06:10,450 --> 00:06:06,500 never wanted to speak about it and all 99 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:10,460 because of the what happened when the 100 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:12,080 thing when the incident on the river 101 00:06:25,780 --> 00:06:21,080 happened in 2007 January 8 2007 it was a 102 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:25,790 really traumatic thing and it it put the 103 00:06:32,170 --> 00:06:29,570 whole family in turmoil and the first 104 00:06:35,409 --> 00:06:32,180 five years I called five years of 105 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:35,419 darkness because my kids were little I'm 106 00:06:41,469 --> 00:06:38,570 58 years old and my daughter she's 107 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:41,479 teaching music at New York University 108 00:06:45,250 --> 00:06:43,550 right now so she's getting her master's 109 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:45,260 there while she's teaching undergrads 110 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:48,880 but she was 10 when this happened and 111 00:06:55,900 --> 00:06:51,919 all my children going to public school 112 00:06:58,150 --> 00:06:55,910 were getting ridiculed and they'd come 113 00:07:00,190 --> 00:06:58,160 home crying and I started feeling like I 114 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:00,200 shouldn't have never said anything but I 115 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:02,210 could not hold it back because the truth 116 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:07,070 is truth and but it turned into me 117 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:10,340 regretting ever saying anything because 118 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:12,650 it's it's the public the public 119 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:15,020 ridicules people for seeing life's you 120 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:16,820 say I saw lights in the sky they call 121 00:07:22,420 --> 00:07:19,370 you crazy well I've come to find out 122 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:22,430 that they're just in them form and I can 123 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:25,070 prove them all wrong all up anybody I 124 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:30,040 have the proof and five years five years 125 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:35,930 after it happened doctor well I got a 126 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:38,870 call actually what happened was I had an 127 00:07:45,390 --> 00:07:42,080 experience these experiences were 128 00:07:49,410 --> 00:07:45,400 growing I had an experience with this 129 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:49,420 this beautiful being 130 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:52,310 that there was a painting made by Doug 131 00:07:58,420 --> 00:07:54,800 all from New York made a painting by her 132 00:08:01,510 --> 00:07:58,430 about her but long story short she came 133 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:01,520 and she told me that I had to tell this 134 00:08:10,510 --> 00:08:05,330 story to the public just tell water what 135 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:10,520 it is I know then the stock hiding this 136 00:08:17,290 --> 00:08:14,230 is basically what she told me and so I 137 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:17,300 agreed and it's a whole lot more to this 138 00:08:24,490 --> 00:08:21,440 than I'm saying a whole lot more but 139 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:24,500 what happened was the way I described 140 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:27,020 her it got the attention of a lot of 141 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:29,120 people all the way up towards the 142 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:37,690 Vatican and even Washington DC but so we 143 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:42,590 we met in a conference that's what maybe 144 00:08:47,710 --> 00:08:45,710 you want to speak because she came I had 145 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:47,720 this experience and I decided at that 146 00:08:52,710 --> 00:08:49,760 point okay I'm gonna start talking again 147 00:08:55,710 --> 00:08:52,720 within two weeks I was in a MUFON 148 00:08:59,710 --> 00:08:55,720 comforts in Asheville and there she was 149 00:09:01,600 --> 00:08:59,720 doctor for salka and that oh sorry about 150 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:01,610 that keep going keep going and when I 151 00:09:06,610 --> 00:09:04,130 described what it was I wanted to talk 152 00:09:09,580 --> 00:09:06,620 about what had just happened in 2012 153 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:09,590 this this experience with these beings 154 00:09:15,460 --> 00:09:13,250 in this beautiful woman and the crowd 155 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:15,470 didn't want to hear it they they thought 156 00:09:18,610 --> 00:09:17,240 that they wanted to hear the river 157 00:09:20,980 --> 00:09:18,620 experience that happened five years 158 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:20,990 earlier where I ran from that I hate 159 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:24,710 talking about the fast brings up too 160 00:09:30,190 --> 00:09:27,440 many sad times with my children and 161 00:09:32,380 --> 00:09:30,200 family and all the pressures that happen 162 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:32,390 so I was talking about this new 163 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:34,310 experience well they started heckling me 164 00:09:43,570 --> 00:09:37,730 and I couldn't believe it she couldn't 165 00:09:46,270 --> 00:09:43,580 believe it well long story short it it 166 00:09:48,340 --> 00:09:46,280 started a very good relationship of 167 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:48,350 studying together and learning together 168 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:51,290 and I introduced her to some people that 169 00:09:57,460 --> 00:09:54,530 were very high-level individuals one in 170 00:10:01,180 --> 00:09:57,470 her book she calls Tyler that was me to 171 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:05,180 also I've been behind the scenes very 172 00:10:14,390 --> 00:10:11,760 low-key not stirring up any attention 173 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:14,400 towards myself because the things I was 174 00:10:22,180 --> 00:10:17,360 involved in and still to this day are 175 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:22,190 stuff people have no clue that exists 176 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:26,700 and the catalyst stuff for they yeah you 177 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:29,130 you contacted MUFON initially is that 178 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:31,770 about right yeah yeah that you turned to 179 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:34,770 them first with your experiences I did I 180 00:10:45,050 --> 00:10:38,670 turned them in 2007 it happened in 181 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:45,060 January 8 2007 I was fishing with my son 182 00:10:50,810 --> 00:10:47,930 and three other guys that had more 183 00:10:54,380 --> 00:10:50,820 subcontractors and we just finished up a 184 00:10:56,390 --> 00:10:54,390 big project on the beach and I was 185 00:11:00,680 --> 00:10:56,400 suffering with Crohn's disease had been 186 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:00,690 for 17 years and had recently gone 187 00:11:05,270 --> 00:11:02,490 through two years before a near-death 188 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:05,280 experience from toxic blood poisoning 189 00:11:12,650 --> 00:11:08,640 and too much medication so I was pretty 190 00:11:14,930 --> 00:11:12,660 down on myself and down on life and I 191 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:14,940 had to sell my business I had a 192 00:11:20,420 --> 00:11:17,850 flourishing construction business build 193 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:20,430 100 homes a year was named businessman 194 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:28,460 in 2005 I think so we were we were going 195 00:11:35,810 --> 00:11:31,440 or four we were going pretty strong and 196 00:11:38,150 --> 00:11:35,820 my sickness had so bad I couldn't get 197 00:11:41,930 --> 00:11:38,160 out of bed for two years I was that sick 198 00:11:45,890 --> 00:11:41,940 and my empire was just crumbling down 199 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:45,900 and that's when we sold the company and 200 00:11:52,460 --> 00:11:49,110 or my wife did while I was in the 201 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:52,470 hospital a bit or not it led to an death 202 00:11:57,830 --> 00:11:55,710 then and then two years later is when 203 00:12:01,460 --> 00:11:57,840 this thing happened on the river I was 204 00:12:04,430 --> 00:12:01,470 at my last hope I have to say I was 205 00:12:06,950 --> 00:12:04,440 ready to give up on life and I was I'd 206 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:06,960 left my friends fishing and my son and 207 00:12:13,550 --> 00:12:09,360 walked away about a quarter mile up a 208 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:13,560 path to a field and try to and and and 209 00:12:17,210 --> 00:12:14,880 my thoughts I was like 210 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:17,220 lord I want to die whoever's up there I 211 00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:19,170 don't know who's up there but somebody 212 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:23,040 to listen what am I gonna do I'm 46 I 213 00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:24,990 have four children I can't feed them I 214 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:27,630 don't have I'm sick I can't work I can't 215 00:12:32,390 --> 00:12:29,370 hold a job and this is what I was 216 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:32,400 thinking sure and when I got to the top 217 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:36,450 of that hill and we were down in a 218 00:12:42,380 --> 00:12:38,880 really remote place on the river fishing 219 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:42,390 I walked away and up out of the river 220 00:12:47,420 --> 00:12:44,370 bottom to a cornfield when I got up 221 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:47,430 there there were two big fiery orange 222 00:12:52,850 --> 00:12:50,490 balls of fire there were a quarter mile 223 00:12:57,050 --> 00:12:52,860 or less away and just above the trees 224 00:13:01,990 --> 00:12:57,060 good and I'm a commercial pilot that was 225 00:13:06,290 --> 00:13:02,000 my profession for about twelve years and 226 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:06,300 I quit that and went into the building 227 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:07,890 business because they having so many 228 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:10,200 children poor children and I had to stay 229 00:13:16,190 --> 00:13:14,250 home I couldn't travel but I knew what I 230 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:16,200 was looking at I knew it wasn't from 231 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:19,680 here and it looked like you look like a 232 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:21,930 son just like the Sun when it's it's 233 00:13:25,850 --> 00:13:23,810 late in the evening just before dark 234 00:13:28,490 --> 00:13:25,860 when you can look at it with your eyes 235 00:13:31,490 --> 00:13:28,500 and it doesn't hurt it's big and orange 236 00:13:35,390 --> 00:13:31,500 and beautiful that's the way they look 237 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:35,400 there were two of them and it scared me 238 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:38,160 and so I turned and I look behind me 239 00:13:43,310 --> 00:13:41,190 like I'm gonna run and I squatted down 240 00:13:45,770 --> 00:13:43,320 I had a hill steel I was climbing hill 241 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:45,780 so I could hide from it thinking 242 00:13:52,610 --> 00:13:50,160 thinking I was hiding and I turned to 243 00:13:55,010 --> 00:13:52,620 look back thoughts and my thoughts were 244 00:14:00,200 --> 00:13:55,020 I'm fixing to run I'm going back to 245 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:00,210 where my son is and I look back back and 246 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:03,060 my body was turned down hill all in the 247 00:14:07,820 --> 00:14:04,770 same motion and when I looked back up 248 00:14:09,650 --> 00:14:07,830 the sea and I popped my head up from 249 00:14:14,110 --> 00:14:09,660 behind the hill to see these two fiery 250 00:14:18,290 --> 00:14:14,120 balls was that very second a third one 251 00:14:20,570 --> 00:14:18,300 came from up high in plain sight and it 252 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:20,580 came out of what nowhere like a hole 253 00:14:26,990 --> 00:14:23,760 just appeared and boom and one second it 254 00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:27,000 was down beside the other two and next 255 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:28,000 thing I remember 256 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:30,370 four and a half hours later I come 257 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:34,810 walking up to the fire and it was four 258 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:37,440 and a half hours of missing time and 259 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:43,600 ensued into more and more I mean my son 260 00:14:48,990 --> 00:14:46,330 was hiding he was out looking for me the 261 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:49,000 three fishermen they were they had been 262 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:51,790 hunting for me for hours driving the 263 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:54,610 truck in and out and walking and my son 264 00:14:59,330 --> 00:14:56,470 was lost in the forest 265 00:15:02,580 --> 00:14:59,340 he'd going in on foot looking for me and 266 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:02,590 when I got back to the fire I asked 267 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:04,330 where Chris jr. was they said we don't 268 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:06,790 know he's he went in the woods and he's 269 00:15:12,450 --> 00:15:10,270 lost he hadn't come back and so I kind 270 00:15:15,870 --> 00:15:12,460 of freaked out and I ran right on by him 271 00:15:17,850 --> 00:15:15,880 I went to the back of the cul-de-sac we 272 00:15:20,820 --> 00:15:17,860 were down in a little dead in coats that 273 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:20,830 I mean he had they had going out looking 274 00:15:23,730 --> 00:15:21,310 for me 275 00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:23,740 one guy staying at the fire and my son 276 00:15:33,150 --> 00:15:27,520 went down in the forest and when I found 277 00:15:36,990 --> 00:15:33,160 him I was shouting for him he was and he 278 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:37,000 was in shock he was on he was laying 279 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:39,970 down under the thickest shrubs hiding 280 00:15:46,050 --> 00:15:43,839 because he had seen these red orbs out 281 00:15:49,079 --> 00:15:46,060 away from him and this is a long story I 282 00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:49,089 could talk for hours on this one part it 283 00:15:54,650 --> 00:15:51,550 was a TV show made about it UFOs over 284 00:15:59,340 --> 00:15:54,660 earth and they didn't give a third of 285 00:16:01,500 --> 00:15:59,350 the information that was there and I was 286 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:01,510 very angry about that but it's all good 287 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:04,390 now well that was a MUFON that based 288 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:07,240 show and how soon after this incident 289 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:10,290 did you decide to contact them I 290 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:15,550 contacted them 10 months after it 291 00:16:22,350 --> 00:16:18,070 happened the first it happened January 292 00:16:26,910 --> 00:16:22,360 the 7th of 2010 where the 8th of 2007 293 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:26,920 I'm sorry and my wife thought I was I 294 00:16:31,710 --> 00:16:29,350 had lost it for one because I'm talking 295 00:16:33,420 --> 00:16:31,720 about UFOs and lights and I never 296 00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:33,430 thought about stuff like that remember I 297 00:16:40,110 --> 00:16:35,380 built a hundred homes a year and was 298 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:40,120 very sick and she just thought that I 299 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:41,529 was seeing things isn't 300 00:16:46,290 --> 00:16:43,480 the way nobody wanted to believe me my 301 00:16:49,220 --> 00:16:46,300 mom my dad and I wanted to talk somebody 302 00:16:51,569 --> 00:16:49,230 and I didn't know who to talk to and I 303 00:16:53,340 --> 00:16:51,579 struggled and struggled I didn't have 304 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:53,350 television I still don't to this day I 305 00:17:00,299 --> 00:16:57,930 don't subscribe to television so I 306 00:17:03,210 --> 00:17:00,309 didn't even have internet then well I 307 00:17:08,909 --> 00:17:03,220 finally got Internet in the summer time 308 00:17:12,929 --> 00:17:08,919 or late fall and noticed that there was 309 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:12,939 a ancient alien show or one of those 310 00:17:19,590 --> 00:17:16,000 shows UFO shows on TV and Stanton 311 00:17:22,199 --> 00:17:19,600 Friedman was on there and in my simple 312 00:17:27,659 --> 00:17:22,209 mind I thought Lord if he can talk about 313 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:27,669 it publicly I'm going to do and under I 314 00:17:31,169 --> 00:17:29,080 really thought I was going to be 315 00:17:32,940 --> 00:17:31,179 divorced if I reported it or talking 316 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:32,950 anymore about it because most kids were 317 00:17:36,990 --> 00:17:34,960 so scared and they were coming home and 318 00:17:41,159 --> 00:17:37,000 frightened and my wife was protecting 319 00:17:47,070 --> 00:17:41,169 the children sure so I got their number 320 00:17:48,779 --> 00:17:47,080 off of the television and I went on the 321 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:48,789 internet and I pulled up their reporting 322 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:52,210 form and I put I did the report and I 323 00:17:56,419 --> 00:17:54,640 waited two weeks in agony thinking if I 324 00:17:59,820 --> 00:17:56,429 send this I'm going to be divorced 325 00:18:04,770 --> 00:17:59,830 that's how bad it was but I was about to 326 00:18:06,590 --> 00:18:04,780 I couldn't I could not think if I tried 327 00:18:09,930 --> 00:18:06,600 to remember I had the worst headache 328 00:18:11,730 --> 00:18:09,940 because of whatever happened to me I had 329 00:18:14,850 --> 00:18:11,740 a memory block I could not think 330 00:18:18,990 --> 00:18:14,860 backwards at all if I did it was a 331 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:19,000 terrible terrible migraine but I 332 00:18:26,909 --> 00:18:22,690 reported it finally October 10 months 333 00:18:28,919 --> 00:18:26,919 later and within a week of two days I 334 00:18:30,419 --> 00:18:28,929 got a call from California we want to 335 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:30,429 come see you we want to send an 336 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:32,320 investigator I'm freaked out I'm like no 337 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:34,690 I can't do that I'm sorry I had to a 338 00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:39,730 backpedal and it went on back and forth 339 00:18:46,049 --> 00:18:41,860 but then trying to get to see me into 340 00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:46,059 January when I finally they were going 341 00:18:51,389 --> 00:18:47,950 to close the case and I agreed to let 342 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:51,399 their local guy calm and when he came he 343 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:54,250 saw the evidence on the ground the grass 344 00:18:58,830 --> 00:18:56,410 was burnt 345 00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:58,840 a lot of things witnesses there were 346 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:02,160 other witnesses a lot of witnesses and 347 00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:05,680 within three days there was a group 348 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:07,870 after he came the first investigator 349 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:09,490 within three or four days they had 350 00:19:15,410 --> 00:19:13,090 people from headquarters from New York 351 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:15,420 or Maryland there were like five or six 352 00:19:20,340 --> 00:19:17,110 investigators were at my house 353 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:20,350 immediately and they talked me into 354 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:22,480 doing this show and I agreed because I 355 00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:26,380 wanted to prove that it really happened 356 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:29,520 that there were lights in this guy and 357 00:19:37,410 --> 00:19:33,430 that didn't turn out like I wanted it to 358 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:37,420 because they kind of they they held back 359 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:40,390 evidence they made it look like I was 360 00:19:47,010 --> 00:19:44,010 lying when that was far from the case 361 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:47,020 and so that's what put me in the five 362 00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:50,530 years what they did cause me to be the 363 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:54,310 laughingstock of the community that's a 364 00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:57,250 fact and it it injured my family my 365 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:00,160 children and the whole thing and I and 366 00:20:05,310 --> 00:20:03,340 you know what it's okay now because I 367 00:20:08,670 --> 00:20:05,320 understand it was all cover-up back then 368 00:20:10,530 --> 00:20:08,680 but today it's all about what are we 369 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:10,540 dealing with it's not about is it really 370 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:11,560 anymore 371 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:13,170 and that's kind of why I'm talking 372 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:16,240 understood yes I remember that show and 373 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:19,210 yeah I mean there they to be blunt about 374 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:21,210 it they didn't make him look good at all 375 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:25,210 but regardless of all that some other 376 00:20:31,050 --> 00:20:28,450 folks some folks who were connected 377 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:31,060 through at that point in time Robert 378 00:20:39,170 --> 00:20:34,780 Bigelow was basically offering up some 379 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:39,180 funding to MUFON and your case I guess 380 00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:42,790 got his attention and then from there it 381 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:45,430 got the attention of a number of very 382 00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:48,190 significant insiders and can you tell 383 00:20:52,890 --> 00:20:49,780 the folks at home a little bit about 384 00:20:57,710 --> 00:20:52,900 that process what was when did they 385 00:21:00,150 --> 00:20:57,720 start making contact with you well I 386 00:21:04,530 --> 00:21:00,160 don't know how much of this is still 387 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:04,540 sensitive but some of it is but I can 388 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:07,120 say we were the first case that's kind 389 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:09,070 of what sparked this whole thing 390 00:21:14,580 --> 00:21:12,010 with Bigelow and the government funding 391 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:14,590 the millions what 14 million or whatever 392 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:18,850 it was dollars I was the first case my 393 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:22,350 family and it was kind of mobilized all 394 00:21:29,670 --> 00:21:25,950 because of that from what I understand 395 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:29,680 some folks in Washington as high as it 396 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:32,530 gets told me that they knew who I was 397 00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:35,410 the day it was published the day I 398 00:21:42,810 --> 00:21:38,830 reported it and that they wanted to come 399 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:42,820 see me and it was because of the things 400 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:45,370 that I reported how it happened 401 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:48,910 what what I saw and these little beams 402 00:21:55,620 --> 00:21:51,730 they were going little beans they look 403 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:55,630 like ghosts three feet tall I actually 404 00:22:00,840 --> 00:21:58,480 have a photo and a video a couple of 405 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:00,850 photos and a couple of videos of these 406 00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:05,590 beans walking I just can't release them 407 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:12,280 but I have it and the one the one that 408 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:14,530 was so close to me I could see through 409 00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:16,510 the glow on its chest he was three or 410 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:19,120 four feet away I had a triangle on his 411 00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:21,370 chest like a triangle underneath this 412 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:25,270 glow I could see it and I drew it I drew 413 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:28,990 it and when I reported that it wasn't 414 00:22:34,890 --> 00:22:32,350 long I get a call from my son I'm 415 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:34,900 talking days after I reported it there's 416 00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:38,170 a knock at the door and my son said dad 417 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:43,140 there's a guy here from NASA I said Lord 418 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:45,730 well nobody told me they were coming he 419 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:48,970 said he didn't he said he he just got in 420 00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:51,690 his car and came to North Carolina and 421 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:56,620 so I said tell him to wait I get there 422 00:23:03,360 --> 00:22:58,930 I'll be home in an hour so I got home 423 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:03,370 and that same guy is coming to spend 424 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:06,910 Thanksgiving with me next week week 425 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:08,890 after soon as Thanksgiving he's coming 426 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:11,680 he and his wife and he's still active he 427 00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:13,390 still has his clearances he's been there 428 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,120 60 years so all the while they did a 429 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:22,000 good job of making me look like I was 430 00:23:25,019 --> 00:23:22,960 lying and it 431 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,029 the attention off and that's all good 432 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:27,520 because I learned a lot so for the last 433 00:23:34,529 --> 00:23:31,270 twelve years I've had the opportunity to 434 00:23:38,130 --> 00:23:34,539 meet people to work behind the scenes on 435 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:38,140 some things like technologies Dinah 436 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:42,880 talks about that a little bit and I just 437 00:23:47,370 --> 00:23:44,590 have a group of people behind me and 438 00:23:49,860 --> 00:23:47,380 around me that I'm not afraid of the 439 00:23:52,289 --> 00:23:49,870 government I'm afraid of the people it's 440 00:23:55,019 --> 00:23:52,299 the people that are that don't believe 441 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:55,029 this see UFO world that wants to 442 00:23:59,310 --> 00:23:58,090 criticize and debunk everything but 443 00:24:01,799 --> 00:23:59,320 there are people that really know the 444 00:24:03,299 --> 00:24:01,809 truth and they're really helpful they 445 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:03,309 just want to know what was happening 446 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:06,250 they don't know you know there's a lot 447 00:24:10,649 --> 00:24:08,049 of theories the government has this in 448 00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:10,659 this and all these things hidden well 449 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:12,669 that couldn't be further from the truth 450 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:16,090 from my experience I haven't seen any of 451 00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:20,260 that or heard of it and I just don't 452 00:24:25,470 --> 00:24:23,320 know as I believe it because of some of 453 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:25,480 the things I've done in places ugh yeah 454 00:24:32,130 --> 00:24:28,390 I think they're more innocent they want 455 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:32,140 to notice as bad as you or not now when 456 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:35,289 you first had the other fella from NASA 457 00:24:41,539 --> 00:24:39,010 visit you was it kind of a relief at 458 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:41,549 first or were you not really a 459 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,110 trustworthy after the bad experience 460 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:46,720 would the MUFON TV show or at what point 461 00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:48,370 in time did you say to yourself ah 462 00:24:54,180 --> 00:24:50,799 finally you know we're making some 463 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:54,190 headway here I still hadn't said finally 464 00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:55,840 because I've had people come to my house 465 00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:57,549 threaten to kill me and my wife and 466 00:25:04,110 --> 00:25:01,840 children in my face publicly and and 467 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:04,120 right in front of me so my wife will 468 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,490 kill you if you share any of this 469 00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:08,080 information we got and they're not 470 00:25:13,950 --> 00:25:10,630 government these are there's a people 471 00:25:16,919 --> 00:25:13,960 that I'm more worried about people that 472 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:16,929 are non-government you see socks all 473 00:25:24,450 --> 00:25:20,250 friends in the government to say help me 474 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:24,460 but there's no feeling comfortable in 475 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:27,370 this all because I reported lights in 476 00:25:33,389 --> 00:25:29,500 the sky after worried about the safety 477 00:25:35,370 --> 00:25:33,399 of my family think about that earth it's 478 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:35,380 all because of a narrative people want 479 00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:36,550 to drive a narrative of 480 00:25:42,510 --> 00:25:39,940 about what it is there the world is 481 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:42,520 experiencing when they're really coming 482 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:44,050 to me wanting to know what it is I'm 483 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:48,610 experiencing can I share this yeah this 484 00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:50,650 is just some there's two sides of this 485 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,200 thing and I don't know I saw Diana talks 486 00:26:02,820 --> 00:25:58,240 about it she's been threatened as well 487 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:02,830 yes when you start getting near facts or 488 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,930 sensitive stuff we just have to be real 489 00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:06,640 careful and that's why I don't do a lot 490 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:07,600 of talking about it 491 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:12,550 understood so as a time pastor you 492 00:26:17,820 --> 00:26:15,370 you're they bring you in I'm here they 493 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:17,830 are they flying you to these different 494 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:20,290 locations and you know asking you to 495 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:21,850 take a look at this take a look at that 496 00:26:25,950 --> 00:26:24,310 what do you think how is that process 497 00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:25,960 going are they bringing the stuff to you 498 00:26:33,870 --> 00:26:28,000 where you going to them how is all that 499 00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:33,880 working then although there's just I get 500 00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:36,190 a phone call say you need to be here or 501 00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:41,590 meet me here at this place or and they 502 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:44,380 come to me I mean this is just like you 503 00:26:48,750 --> 00:26:46,810 would once you get to know these folks 504 00:26:51,050 --> 00:26:48,760 they're just wonderful people that want 505 00:26:53,670 --> 00:26:51,060 to know the truth is like you or not and 506 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:53,680 they have a job to do and they can't 507 00:27:00,060 --> 00:26:57,490 really share it and nobody will never 508 00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:00,070 know who these folks are ever I couldn't 509 00:27:09,180 --> 00:27:01,840 share it and they don't want to be 510 00:27:18,690 --> 00:27:12,750 there's there's a I don't mean I have to 511 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:18,700 be careful sir sure it's not the 512 00:27:34,490 --> 00:27:30,420 that I think is I don't know how to say 513 00:27:41,490 --> 00:27:34,500 this I just don't think they know what 514 00:27:43,770 --> 00:27:41,500 we think they okay okay got it got it 515 00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:43,780 now I that obviously yeah there was 516 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:45,940 something in the content of your initial 517 00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:48,640 report that that got the attention of 518 00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:51,550 these folks have they ever shared the 519 00:28:00,440 --> 00:27:54,280 what that was and if they did can you 520 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:00,450 share that with our listeners well yeah 521 00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:03,610 the triangle on the little beans chest 522 00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:04,720 was a big deal 523 00:28:11,580 --> 00:28:09,430 the the you know I reported ORS I didn't 524 00:28:16,770 --> 00:28:11,590 report a flying saucer and that was the 525 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:16,780 thing up until 2007 it was all triangles 526 00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:18,490 if you remember it was all black 527 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:21,790 triangles right and flying saucers well 528 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:22,990 I don't think the one that's been 529 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:25,120 reported since I reported these orbs 530 00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:28,630 some twelve thirteen years ago but they 531 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:32,620 were orbs huge fiery orange fireballs 532 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:36,880 that looked like the the fire was 533 00:28:41,610 --> 00:28:39,310 rotating clockwise and around it and 534 00:28:44,850 --> 00:28:41,620 flames shooting off of and they're big 535 00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:44,860 as a school bus 40-foot around I think T 536 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:48,040 TSA calls them tic tacs okay same thing 537 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:51,760 I described it exactly the same as what 538 00:28:56,910 --> 00:28:55,330 Tom and his group is talking about same 539 00:29:00,210 --> 00:28:56,920 thing you come out of the ocean that 540 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:00,220 plot to kick the river and that's the 541 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:04,450 direction that came from but that's got 542 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:06,250 their attention the size of what I 543 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:09,910 reported the the little beans and what 544 00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:13,360 they had on their chest and how they 545 00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:17,470 appeared things that went on with me 546 00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:21,880 that's the one thing Frank without 547 00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:25,420 speculating it's the evidence I have a 548 00:29:33,660 --> 00:29:30,240 lot of evidence and I can put it on on 549 00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:33,670 websites out there the real stuff and in 550 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:35,920 the UFO world they totally ignore it 551 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:38,350 because they don't want that they won't 552 00:29:43,710 --> 00:29:40,510 they won't Pleiadians and 553 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:43,720 Zeta Reticuli and all this kind of stuff 554 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:47,230 but it's not like that it doesn't work 555 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,770 quite like that is this is different and 556 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:52,960 I'm still trying to figure it out along 557 00:29:59,760 --> 00:29:55,049 with a whole lot of other smart people 558 00:30:04,740 --> 00:29:59,770 but did the the data that I have I have 559 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:04,750 thousands of photos and videos videos 560 00:30:10,110 --> 00:30:08,230 with audio and witnesses like Colonel 561 00:30:13,770 --> 00:30:10,120 John Alexander he's been in the 562 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:13,780 government 50 years he just came back 563 00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:16,330 from overseas in Kazakh Stan and all 564 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:18,390 those places and he's researching 565 00:30:26,130 --> 00:30:21,220 paranormal phenomenon you a buzz when he 566 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:26,140 does that well 47 years of doing that he 567 00:30:32,850 --> 00:30:29,350 came to visit with me and my family and 568 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:32,860 his wife Victoria and he wanted to go 569 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:34,570 down to the river and I took him down 570 00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:37,809 there and my daughter Emily went and I 571 00:30:43,169 --> 00:30:40,480 know because she's a little magnet that 572 00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:43,179 they would likely show up with her 573 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:45,540 around if I had taken anybody else 574 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,370 they're kind of pretty shy they may not 575 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:50,320 show up for up here but when she's with 576 00:30:56,820 --> 00:30:54,730 me it's like is she it's me because 577 00:30:59,549 --> 00:30:56,830 that's kind of aggravating thing for the 578 00:31:01,620 --> 00:30:59,559 longest time I would go outside and 579 00:31:03,630 --> 00:31:01,630 there they would be and I couldn't get a 580 00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:03,640 camera on them I couldn't take a picture 581 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:05,380 and I couldn't run in and get my wife 582 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:06,610 say come look 583 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:08,530 it was so aggravating because they'd be 584 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:11,890 gone but five years later when I had 585 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:15,010 that experience and I decided to start 586 00:31:22,409 --> 00:31:19,030 speaking from that point on I walk out 587 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:22,419 that very booth in a few days after that 588 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,570 and there it was and I got it on video 589 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:28,240 and from that point on I've got five or 590 00:31:34,830 --> 00:31:31,240 six thousand photos and hundreds of 591 00:31:38,190 --> 00:31:34,840 videos and witnesses like John I told 592 00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:38,200 John I said they're here right now and 593 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:40,600 they're above us I could sense it I can 594 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:42,130 feel it I have a video where you can 595 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:44,740 hear me I can't hardly breathe when it 596 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:47,770 appears in front of us will it appear it 597 00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:51,010 in front of Victoria and John and Emily 598 00:31:57,510 --> 00:31:54,340 enough above us it didn't fly 599 00:32:00,600 --> 00:31:57,520 it wasn't a satellite it appeared out of 600 00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:00,610 thin air and been zipped off to the 601 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:05,320 South pretty quick and so can imagine 602 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:10,510 just imagine me telling somebody such as 603 00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:14,559 John that there's a UFO over me and it's 604 00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:17,140 about to appear and within 10 seconds it 605 00:32:25,649 --> 00:32:21,400 does imagine what the powers above think 606 00:32:27,870 --> 00:32:25,659 about that I mean this guy just throw 607 00:32:33,380 --> 00:32:27,880 out a few clues here the reason it draws 608 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:33,390 attention on this gun cause the temporal 609 00:32:38,850 --> 00:32:36,640 relationship John had been on the show 610 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:38,860 and he'd mention that encounter himself 611 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:41,049 and has nothing but they're the highest 612 00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:43,570 regard for you said nothing but great 613 00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:44,620 things about you 614 00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:47,320 now I another thing that John had said 615 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:49,990 was he had been that he'd spent a lot of 616 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:52,210 time now this goes off topic a little 617 00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:53,770 bit but he had spent a lot of time at 618 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:56,140 skinwalker ranch and and all the time he 619 00:33:00,210 --> 00:32:57,970 was there he heard accounts from other 620 00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:00,220 people but didn't have any strange 621 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:02,529 encounters himself while he was there he 622 00:33:07,019 --> 00:33:05,260 comes and spends an evening with you and 623 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:07,029 all of a sudden he does do you have any 624 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:10,720 thoughts on that well yeah I actually 625 00:33:18,419 --> 00:33:16,090 asked for it yeah there's a lot of 626 00:33:21,630 --> 00:33:18,429 people like John he's not the only one I 627 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:21,640 mean even in the video the latest video 628 00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:24,610 I think I sent chant one this week I 629 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:26,169 don't have to send it to you but you can 630 00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:29,110 see he shared it with me I saw it and 631 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:31,320 you hear all the people that are calling 632 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:33,130 so it happens 633 00:33:40,649 --> 00:33:37,120 it used to be remembering before 2012 it 634 00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:40,659 wouldn't cooperate 2012 I had this 635 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:43,000 experience with this beautiful lady and 636 00:33:49,860 --> 00:33:46,330 these three beings and from that point 637 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:49,870 on the my little iPhone camera people 638 00:33:54,779 --> 00:33:52,570 spend thousands and thousands tens of 639 00:33:57,389 --> 00:33:54,789 thousands on Wednesdays and cameras just 640 00:34:01,019 --> 00:33:57,399 to get a little light flying across way 641 00:34:03,389 --> 00:34:01,029 up like a satellite I get pictures still 642 00:34:07,769 --> 00:34:03,399 photos and videos of orbs that are five 643 00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:07,779 feet away 15 feet 20 feet 400 feet 644 00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:09,700 way up in the air likes i don't even 645 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:12,700 worry about them on that I get the ones 646 00:34:19,649 --> 00:34:16,690 that are close you know to 300 yards or 647 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:19,659 closer I've got one over Easter that was 648 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:23,529 15 for 18 minutes I'll film this orb 649 00:34:28,460 --> 00:34:26,260 that came out of the sky this is on 650 00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:28,470 Easter I walked out the door when I did 651 00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:31,359 these things know I'm here they know 652 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:33,730 when I opened the door they appear there 653 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:35,649 waiting it doesn't matter where I go 654 00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:38,049 I've been to California with movie 655 00:34:43,859 --> 00:34:41,500 producers and their children and the 656 00:34:46,049 --> 00:34:43,869 things fly right over our head 100 feet 657 00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:46,059 off they come on out in the ocean and 658 00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:51,849 fly right up to us and so this orb 659 00:34:58,589 --> 00:34:55,480 appears above way up in the sky was 660 00:35:00,809 --> 00:34:58,599 probably 2 or 300 feet up and it came 661 00:35:01,859 --> 00:35:00,819 straight down and it looked like a 662 00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:01,869 Firefly 663 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:04,990 diving to the ground that sized glowing 664 00:35:10,109 --> 00:35:08,170 bright is an LED light blinking and when 665 00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:10,119 it got to the tops of the trees on the 666 00:35:15,089 --> 00:35:11,950 other side of this pond I live on a 667 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:15,099 private 15 actors with a pond and in my 668 00:35:19,289 --> 00:35:17,890 back porches literally six foot from the 669 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:19,299 water so when I open the door I'm 670 00:35:28,799 --> 00:35:21,970 standing at the water this thing comes 671 00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:28,809 on way up high and a low battery 672 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:32,950 indicator it comes on way up high and 673 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:38,020 zooms down to I'm sorry I'm trying to 674 00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:46,569 put my problem fikret are sick comes 675 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:51,640 down out of the sky to the trees it gets 676 00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:53,230 to the edge of the water on the other 677 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:55,390 side and then by now I'm kind of 678 00:36:01,799 --> 00:35:57,010 freaking out because I know it's coming 679 00:36:03,569 --> 00:36:01,809 for me it sees me and I'm trying to stay 680 00:36:06,779 --> 00:36:03,579 away from these orbs as much as I can 681 00:36:09,690 --> 00:36:06,789 because I got really sick from it that's 682 00:36:12,059 --> 00:36:09,700 a whole nother story well I guess you 683 00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:12,069 know what water's edge on the other side 684 00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:14,680 it stops for a second 685 00:36:19,609 --> 00:36:16,660 and it's a basketball-sized and it's 686 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:19,619 it's blinking on and off very brightly 687 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:21,490 erratically the 688 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:23,560 here comes across the water now and this 689 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:26,890 coming to me I'm on my knees with my 690 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,770 dogs beside me and I'm scared to move 691 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:30,960 that's right 692 00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:35,530 and it gets within 20 feet of me v 2025 693 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:38,200 feet is over the water and it's jumping 694 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:43,290 up and down ten yeah this org 695 00:36:50,850 --> 00:36:48,250 it's illuminating a 10-foot area up and 696 00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:50,860 down over the river over the water and I 697 00:36:57,810 --> 00:36:53,740 can see I know what it is it's some sort 698 00:37:00,720 --> 00:36:57,820 of entity coming so I filmed it for for 699 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:00,730 18 minutes and as soon as I pulled the 700 00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:03,430 camera out on cell phone when I put it 701 00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:06,430 on it the orb it knew what I was going 702 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,400 to do and it died down to just an orb 703 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:11,680 that blinks on and blinks off the break 704 00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:15,250 10 minutes I got this orb there and then 705 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:19,950 a lot of crazy stuff happened after that 706 00:37:33,390 --> 00:37:30,480 amazing stuff there's and I don't know 707 00:37:36,410 --> 00:37:33,400 if I want to get into it too much but we 708 00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:36,420 have a Sun that could not have babies 709 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:39,400 ever the University of North Carolina 710 00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:41,380 Chapel Hill said he could and all of a 711 00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:45,670 sudden he's going to be a father he has 712 00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,220 his fiancee and she and for some reason 713 00:38:00,930 --> 00:37:58,960 for to for for a short while there he 714 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:00,940 could fill his toes in his bare lives 715 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:05,710 and my DEA score I have rheumatoid and I 716 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:09,850 contracted this dr. persona and a lot of 717 00:38:16,590 --> 00:38:11,800 other people think it's because of the 718 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:16,600 wards it happened to st. Francis in the 719 00:38:24,349 --> 00:38:21,100 Vatican and I mean in in in the ancient 720 00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:24,359 days in Rome or wherever he was from but 721 00:38:29,370 --> 00:38:27,460 Diana was at the Vatican and pull went 722 00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:29,380 in the secret archives and they read a 723 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:31,540 lot of stories and stuff and so they 724 00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:33,250 were sending me stuff in the Vatican 725 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:34,480 they actually had a ceremony 726 00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:38,490 right there and had it in my honor and 727 00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:42,040 was allowed in the archives all this 728 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:44,260 would be in the television show if it 729 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:51,130 comes about the whole thing but Saint 730 00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:55,570 Francis and others had nothing more than 731 00:39:00,690 --> 00:38:57,310 rheumatoid is what they believed it was 732 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:00,700 based on today's lens and it came from 733 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:06,880 being zapped by or did applause I have 734 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:08,470 them right in my face sometimes they fly 735 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:12,760 right up within inches feet and a lot of 736 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:14,170 people see them when they come here a 737 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,630 lot and a lot of testify to it and have 738 00:39:25,770 --> 00:39:18,960 videos other people get videos of them 739 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:25,780 appearing and interacting so it's just 740 00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:29,710 that's why so many people in so many 741 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:32,470 places know about this they heard that 742 00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:34,930 this is going on they know that I have 743 00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:37,960 this evidence and a lot of others have 744 00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:39,400 been here and witnessed that other 745 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:43,440 people from the government not just John 746 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:46,510 well one of the one of the other folks I 747 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:48,850 know that you've had some contact with 748 00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:52,090 it reached out to you was someone who's 749 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:55,030 stays that pretty quiet but is involved 750 00:40:00,060 --> 00:39:56,890 and that helps run the to the stars 751 00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:00,070 Academy and that's Jim semi van can you 752 00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:02,380 give our listeners some kind of insight 753 00:40:08,010 --> 00:40:05,350 in terms of what this guy's all about 754 00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:08,020 because he he's kind of a mysterious guy 755 00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:09,820 who doesn't say too much yeah publicly 756 00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:13,750 anyway well I can't say a whole lot 757 00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:18,520 about Jim but I can tell you this he is 758 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:20,260 a mighty good friend of mine and has 759 00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:23,170 been for many years I've been to Easter 760 00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:24,790 with him with his family and my family 761 00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:28,990 my children my daughters in New York she 762 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:30,670 started there this year this is her 763 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:34,750 first visitor Jim and death they're just 764 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:37,930 wonderful people he was in the CIA and 765 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:40,810 he had an experience and he knew about 766 00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:44,950 me right after it was published 12 13 767 00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:45,950 years ago 768 00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:49,369 and we finally got to meet and I don't 769 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:54,430 think he could long as he was active but 770 00:41:00,400 --> 00:40:56,450 you know I don't know if I can say that 771 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:00,410 or not but he he follows the rule by the 772 00:41:08,289 --> 00:41:03,770 rule and as soon as he retired we were 773 00:41:09,789 --> 00:41:08,299 we became friends and I knew about Tom 774 00:41:17,650 --> 00:41:09,799 long before 775 00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:17,660 Tom's company ever got started and then 776 00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:19,430 there Tom I'm very good friends with Tom 777 00:41:24,970 --> 00:41:23,089 and Lou Jim I just I can't say a whole 778 00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:24,980 lot there but they're very good people 779 00:41:31,089 --> 00:41:27,049 and they're very serious and it's not a 780 00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:31,099 scam what they're doing is dead serious 781 00:41:39,099 --> 00:41:32,990 I think the UFO world believes that 782 00:41:41,650 --> 00:41:39,109 they're 7 or 10 star cruisers at area 51 783 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:41,660 and and why would Tom worry about a 784 00:41:46,030 --> 00:41:43,730 piece of metal right right 785 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:46,040 it don't make sense well I don't think 786 00:41:51,490 --> 00:41:48,290 they got the star cruisers but they do 787 00:41:54,579 --> 00:41:51,500 have the metal because I had my hands on 788 00:41:59,559 --> 00:41:54,589 some other and I actually shared a piece 789 00:42:02,319 --> 00:41:59,569 with them so that's that got it got it 790 00:42:04,510 --> 00:42:02,329 now that they're as far as the the 791 00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:04,520 Middle's Goa that is a pretty 792 00:42:09,309 --> 00:42:07,220 interesting subject and it has been of 793 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:09,319 interest to these types of fellows going 794 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:11,510 way back we had that furry Geller on a 795 00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:14,089 few months back and he discussed that 796 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:17,599 this was I guess back in the the 70s and 797 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:19,970 maybe the 80s for where you know they 798 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:21,890 were bringing pieces that they thought 799 00:42:27,539 --> 00:42:24,770 might be a vet ET origin and having him 800 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:27,549 handle it nut and get his feedback so 801 00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:31,130 that the materials it's a pretty 802 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:35,359 interesting topic now is there anyone 803 00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:37,130 else that they've crossed paths with 804 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,990 besides a Diana jam and John that do you 805 00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:43,760 think of the folks that might want to 806 00:42:47,890 --> 00:42:45,020 hear a little bit more about that you 807 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:47,900 can talk about well there's a lot more 808 00:42:54,220 --> 00:42:49,490 but I really can't talk about this 809 00:42:57,339 --> 00:42:54,230 people remember dynast book read her 810 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:57,349 book it's a wonderful book and true-blue 811 00:43:01,000 --> 00:42:58,880 it's not 812 00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:01,010 think what she's saying in there all of 813 00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:04,160 it's very real about the people she met 814 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:09,470 the crash site she went to the character 815 00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:12,410 Tyler I introduced her took me three 816 00:43:19,150 --> 00:43:14,390 years to get her to meet these people 817 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:19,160 she's that nervous of me and said 818 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:21,110 they're all good folks I mean you're 819 00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:28,680 I understood to be careful there 820 00:43:33,790 --> 00:43:30,830 understand understood but you had 821 00:43:36,090 --> 00:43:33,800 mentioned meeting Tom and what did you 822 00:43:37,930 --> 00:43:36,100 what was your impression of him I mean 823 00:43:41,170 --> 00:43:37,940 were you familiar with his background 824 00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,180 with the rock music and you know what's 825 00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:43,040 a lot of people are thinking you know 826 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:44,840 what what's this guy involved with all 827 00:43:49,870 --> 00:43:47,450 these people for this this is a little 828 00:43:52,210 --> 00:43:49,880 bit odd here were you familiar with him 829 00:43:54,250 --> 00:43:52,220 but when you met him more you know with 830 00:43:55,810 --> 00:43:54,260 the with the musical background or was 831 00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:55,820 he just think a guy who seemed pretty 832 00:44:00,970 --> 00:43:57,440 interested I mean what were your 833 00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:00,980 impressions of Tom I think Tom's a 834 00:44:04,330 --> 00:44:02,390 wonderful guy I like him 835 00:44:07,810 --> 00:44:04,340 I haven't I can text him he might be 836 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:07,820 listening I never know I know him 837 00:44:14,530 --> 00:44:12,290 firsthand I've been we've we've traveled 838 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:14,540 together right so he's a good friend and 839 00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,450 he's very serious I don't think he's 840 00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:19,520 hiding I don't know how he could be hide 841 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:21,680 anything he's just like you and I just 842 00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:26,810 as a very accomplished star that had an 843 00:44:31,870 --> 00:44:29,720 experience that gave him the bug just 844 00:44:34,450 --> 00:44:31,880 like it did me and everybody else us 845 00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:34,460 into this thing he just has more means 846 00:44:40,450 --> 00:44:37,790 to to move the ball down the court and 847 00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:40,460 and he's that kind of guy he's genius 848 00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:43,550 tom is really a very smart person I mean 849 00:44:52,660 --> 00:44:50,140 very smart and he got you might say that 850 00:44:56,530 --> 00:44:52,670 gave him the bug and nothing else 851 00:45:00,070 --> 00:44:56,540 matters music no no even quit it for a 852 00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,080 long time and he got to meet a few 853 00:45:04,690 --> 00:45:02,240 people he made his own way into there 854 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:04,700 and they say I know I'm being told this 855 00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,610 guy named Tom DeLonge I've never heard 856 00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:10,640 of him and they're like do you want to 857 00:45:14,049 --> 00:45:11,609 meet him and 858 00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:14,059 sure so that's kind of how it started 859 00:45:23,479 --> 00:45:20,430 and he's really in it for he's in it 860 00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:23,489 this is in this office this heart be 861 00:45:28,969 --> 00:45:27,119 serious about it he's not this in other 862 00:45:31,999 --> 00:45:28,979 words I think it's all legit what he's 863 00:45:36,229 --> 00:45:32,009 going with the study the research to 864 00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:36,239 find out the truth you know I like them 865 00:45:42,289 --> 00:45:40,079 I think they're they're really serious 866 00:45:44,660 --> 00:45:42,299 in there trying nobody else is right we 867 00:45:47,539 --> 00:45:44,670 can lead the UFO world for the next 50 868 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:47,549 years and let them speculate and write 869 00:45:53,029 --> 00:45:49,410 book after book I've never written a 870 00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:53,039 book in 12 years because I can't I can't 871 00:46:01,489 --> 00:45:55,380 sit here and tell you that this being 872 00:46:03,949 --> 00:46:01,499 named you know Johnny from the planet 873 00:46:06,109 --> 00:46:03,959 this came to my house because you know 874 00:46:07,729 --> 00:46:06,119 it just wanted to visit me and anal 875 00:46:11,410 --> 00:46:07,739 probe me and all this kind of garbage 876 00:46:14,449 --> 00:46:11,420 you know I just don't none of that 877 00:46:17,509 --> 00:46:14,459 that's all dark and dirty and that 878 00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:17,519 wasn't what happened to me mine came 879 00:46:24,259 --> 00:46:20,910 when I was crying out to whoever was up 880 00:46:28,130 --> 00:46:24,269 there I'm sick and I'm ready to give up 881 00:46:30,349 --> 00:46:28,140 on life and I walk up that hill and 882 00:46:34,489 --> 00:46:30,359 there these balls of fire and when they 883 00:46:36,859 --> 00:46:34,499 brought me back like was different I 884 00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:36,869 never had another symptom of Crohn's 885 00:46:42,979 --> 00:46:40,079 from that day forward and for 17 years I 886 00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:42,989 suffered I took you know all these 887 00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:48,329 medications for it and so it it changed 888 00:46:55,699 --> 00:46:51,150 my life and for the first five years it 889 00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:55,709 was pretty dark Oh ridicule and but I 890 00:47:00,769 --> 00:46:58,319 held in there on you know I'm one of 891 00:47:03,499 --> 00:47:00,779 these guys if the sun is shining i'm 892 00:47:05,569 --> 00:47:03,509 gonna tell you the sun shining and it's 893 00:47:08,809 --> 00:47:05,579 nothing different when i saw these 894 00:47:11,420 --> 00:47:08,819 lights and i had this experience and i 895 00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:11,430 don't no longer had this crohn's problem 896 00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:14,910 that nearly nearly killed me let me turn 897 00:47:19,279 --> 00:47:17,190 here dad that was my second one when I 898 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:19,289 was 10 years old I was shot in the back 899 00:47:24,740 --> 00:47:22,890 point-blank with a 20 gauge shotgun from 900 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:24,750 6 foot away 901 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,210 a hole in the side of the orange in my 902 00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:29,520 left shoulder nearly took out my heart 903 00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:32,670 my spine I still have 17 pieces of the 904 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:36,420 lid and my chest I set the alarm off at 905 00:47:45,110 --> 00:47:39,290 the airport every time I go through but 906 00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:45,120 when I came to after surgery all I could 907 00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:48,030 remember was being in a clear like an 908 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:51,030 award a bubble floating away from Earth 909 00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,730 we were I was out in space and I could 910 00:47:58,610 --> 00:47:55,440 look back and see earth getting smaller 911 00:48:01,100 --> 00:47:58,620 and I was in some sort of bubble like a 912 00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:01,110 clear bubble I couldn't see little walls 913 00:48:09,110 --> 00:48:04,260 but I could feel them and I woke up them 914 00:48:11,450 --> 00:48:09,120 in the hospital and boy for a year I 915 00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:11,460 couldn't even move the other slot almost 916 00:48:20,780 --> 00:48:19,680 paralyzed than that I'm assuming that 917 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:20,790 was a hunting accident 918 00:48:29,330 --> 00:48:25,770 cause I hunting yeah 19x I was 10 years 919 00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:29,340 old my neighbor was 9 and his gun went 920 00:48:37,940 --> 00:48:33,480 off 6 foot away and you know what when I 921 00:48:40,070 --> 00:48:37,950 had my first regression with MUFON sent 922 00:48:43,690 --> 00:48:40,080 this guy named dr. Michael Colin it was 923 00:48:46,490 --> 00:48:43,700 a hardwood trained psychiatrist I think 924 00:48:48,860 --> 00:48:46,500 when he did the regression my headaches 925 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:48,870 went away completely I never had that 926 00:48:56,180 --> 00:48:52,530 problem thinking back anymore and in 927 00:48:58,730 --> 00:48:56,190 that regression it came out that when I 928 00:49:04,730 --> 00:48:58,740 was 10 years old that they were with me 929 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:04,740 then it was the reason that I didn't die 930 00:49:12,620 --> 00:49:06,930 from that I guess that's what came out 931 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:12,630 and they took this cross from it it went 932 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:15,090 away and I'm still being treated my 933 00:49:20,660 --> 00:49:18,690 doctor treats me for it up until this 934 00:49:22,910 --> 00:49:20,670 week they changed my meds for the fourth 935 00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,920 time but I've been treated they thought 936 00:49:28,310 --> 00:49:25,020 that the Crohn's came the rheumatoid 937 00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:28,320 came back as from Crohn's from the 938 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:29,760 crumbs in other words it laid dormant 939 00:49:34,460 --> 00:49:31,770 and came back as rheumatoid so I went to 940 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:34,470 Chapel Hill big metal cost bill and they 941 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:37,530 they tested me again and 942 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:39,930 know it that it was totally MIT that 943 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:42,930 that was completely gone and this new 944 00:49:50,770 --> 00:49:45,930 thing came about five years ago six 945 00:49:53,570 --> 00:49:50,780 years ago 2012 and I had this experience 946 00:49:56,450 --> 00:49:53,580 there's been I started having trouble 947 00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:56,460 with bring the toilet that's been the 948 00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:01,040 billeting got it now you had mentioned 949 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:03,180 based on what you're telling me that 950 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:05,730 that your contact experiences have 951 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:07,650 generally been pretty positive 952 00:50:11,330 --> 00:50:09,930 maybe the fallout from my people when 953 00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,340 you share them isn't always that good 954 00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,200 but the experience of the direct 955 00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:14,880 experiences themselves are generally 956 00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:18,540 pretty positive and to the Stars is at 957 00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:21,660 best framing this entire phenomenon at 958 00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:24,060 least at some points in terms of 959 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:26,550 national security threat this there 960 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:28,650 seems to be a little bit of a disconnect 961 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:30,090 there can you talk a little bit about 962 00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:33,570 that well you know that's just military 963 00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:35,550 the military there's a lot of military 964 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:38,760 involved with Tom and I think they're 965 00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:41,010 just protecting us and getting safe 966 00:50:45,860 --> 00:50:44,430 about it no words they don't know what 967 00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:45,870 we're dealing with and this is what I 968 00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:46,920 said earlier 969 00:50:52,310 --> 00:50:49,620 most people want to say we have all this 970 00:50:54,620 --> 00:50:52,320 stuff well I don't think we do and I 971 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:54,630 think that until we understand what's 972 00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:57,210 going on that they're going to keep it 973 00:51:02,480 --> 00:50:59,880 that way and tell you the truth there's 974 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:02,490 both good and bad out there you know but 975 00:51:11,090 --> 00:51:08,010 however you align yourself you if you 976 00:51:13,550 --> 00:51:11,100 are positive and you take them and in 977 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:13,560 service to others and share a loving 978 00:51:21,050 --> 00:51:18,240 spirit and humble heart and you know a 979 00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,060 good person I think you don't have 980 00:51:27,470 --> 00:51:23,040 nothing to worry about but if you get 981 00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:27,480 into dark stuff and dark magic and 982 00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:30,300 negativity and have no foundation well 983 00:51:34,820 --> 00:51:32,910 you're allowing some very dark stuff 984 00:51:38,750 --> 00:51:34,830 that can can't come in and take your 985 00:51:42,590 --> 00:51:38,760 life and your spiritual Frank I've found 986 00:51:47,180 --> 00:51:42,600 out well let me say this in the last 12 987 00:51:50,250 --> 00:51:47,190 years what I can prove is that I have 988 00:51:53,580 --> 00:51:50,260 probably adding a thousand maybe 989 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:53,590 texts or emails that people share with 990 00:52:01,980 --> 00:51:57,490 me they send me there they want they 991 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:01,990 won't they won't report their thing to 992 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:03,970 anyone they just want to talk about it 993 00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:06,490 and a lot of my older folks my age and 994 00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:09,190 some younger but they just want to know 995 00:52:12,930 --> 00:52:10,600 what happened and tell me their 996 00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:12,940 experience and so first thing I ask 997 00:52:19,650 --> 00:52:17,200 every time is tell me about your life at 998 00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:19,660 that point when it first started 999 00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:22,060 happening what was going on with you 1000 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:24,520 what was going on with your life and 1001 00:52:30,450 --> 00:52:26,890 your family just tell me where you were 1002 00:52:34,290 --> 00:52:30,460 when it first started and nearly every 1003 00:52:38,310 --> 00:52:34,300 time for the deception of one or two all 1004 00:52:41,460 --> 00:52:38,320 of them would tell me that they had a 1005 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:41,470 loss of a loved one a mother a father a 1006 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:42,400 child 1007 00:52:52,410 --> 00:52:50,290 lost a husband divorced sick cancer but 1008 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:52,420 nearly every one of them will always 1009 00:52:59,640 --> 00:52:54,730 start out by saying they were at the 1010 00:53:02,910 --> 00:52:59,650 bottom and they were in suffering or in 1011 00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:02,920 need of crying out and spirit and that's 1012 00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:05,830 when it comes and it scares them to 1013 00:53:10,770 --> 00:53:07,390 death and they don't know what to react 1014 00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:10,780 to and then they listen to the UFO world 1015 00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,590 and as all this other stuff so it 1016 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:16,960 confuses the heck out of everybody and 1017 00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:19,530 if I sit down and talk to these people 1018 00:53:25,770 --> 00:53:22,270 long enough and share my experience with 1019 00:53:28,610 --> 00:53:25,780 them and let them share you'll find out 1020 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:28,620 all of them it came out of compassion 1021 00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:31,450 nearly all unless it was on the dark 1022 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:34,990 side and that's its own monster I don't 1023 00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:39,610 want to delve into understood now one 1024 00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:41,950 researcher that I know it was met with 1025 00:53:46,410 --> 00:53:43,480 you directly and gone out and had 1026 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:46,420 experiences with you as well and I've 1027 00:53:49,830 --> 00:53:47,770 been pretty public about it so I think 1028 00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:49,840 we can talk about him a little bit but 1029 00:53:55,050 --> 00:53:51,670 he's a favorite of everyone that 1030 00:53:58,620 --> 00:53:55,060 certainly had a wonderful run as all 1031 00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:58,630 this tts a organization was sort of 1032 00:54:01,930 --> 00:54:00,400 percolating into the public view and 1033 00:54:03,250 --> 00:54:01,940 that's great camera 1034 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:03,260 can you talk about grant a little bit 1035 00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:09,410 yeah grant is my pal and always will be 1036 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:13,730 I met grant I don't know 20 remember I 1037 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:16,490 had this experience with the lady for 1038 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:19,010 five years I wasn't taught just how this 1039 00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:22,130 thing's going five years from 2007 to 1040 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:25,250 2012 I wouldn't speak I've just hated it 1041 00:54:29,950 --> 00:54:27,050 everybody Colin I wouldn't answer the 1042 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:29,960 phone I had this experience with this 1043 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:34,010 beautiful being and I'm very reluctant 1044 00:54:41,410 --> 00:54:37,520 to talk about the experiencing an entity 1045 00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:41,420 but I have I have video to prove this is 1046 00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:44,510 why I'm telling me not of her but of 1047 00:54:52,780 --> 00:54:50,500 other entities video walking so 1048 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:52,790 immediately within two weeks I'd met 1049 00:54:59,230 --> 00:54:56,810 Diana and within three more weeks I got 1050 00:55:03,400 --> 00:54:59,240 an invitation to go to Philadelphia to a 1051 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:03,410 big party out of the blue so I told 1052 00:55:08,349 --> 00:55:05,569 Diana so you want to go with me they'll 1053 00:55:12,970 --> 00:55:08,359 pay for it they did they would pay for 1054 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:12,980 ten people to get me to come but sure 1055 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:15,410 enough she went my wife Yvonne went and 1056 00:55:30,940 --> 00:55:20,450 I met the folks there and from that 1057 00:55:32,410 --> 00:55:30,950 point on it all changed well you'd 1058 00:55:34,420 --> 00:55:32,420 mentioned the party and I'm kind of 1059 00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:34,430 curious about that because I I live not 1060 00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:35,510 too far from there 1061 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:37,940 Larry Priscilla was the the guy who 1062 00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:39,770 threw the party he's not really a 1063 00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:41,359 government insider I think he could 1064 00:55:45,849 --> 00:55:43,550 probably talk about him a little bit 1065 00:55:47,620 --> 00:55:45,859 he's a very interesting guy and that you 1066 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:47,630 know he's that made a boatload of cash 1067 00:55:52,089 --> 00:55:50,210 in the finance industry and he's 1068 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:52,099 pursuing his interest in UFOs 1069 00:55:56,170 --> 00:55:54,650 he keeps kind of a low profile I think 1070 00:55:57,940 --> 00:55:56,180 he might have been involved in that 1071 00:56:00,040 --> 00:55:57,950 might be involved in that financing 1072 00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,050 James Fox's new documentary that's 1073 00:56:05,380 --> 00:56:02,960 coming out sometime I guess within the 1074 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:05,390 next year or so but that Larry's a 1075 00:56:09,309 --> 00:56:07,970 pretty interesting guy and I would guess 1076 00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,319 he's one of the more interesting folks 1077 00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:11,359 he crossed paths with can you tell the 1078 00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:12,300 folks a little bit about 1079 00:56:20,270 --> 00:56:17,460 very well you pretty much summed him up 1080 00:56:24,890 --> 00:56:20,280 there Larry is still a great friend of 1081 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:24,900 mine I can say after that party I never 1082 00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:27,570 met him there he met my wife walked up 1083 00:56:33,230 --> 00:56:29,190 to her and said why did you give him so 1084 00:56:34,970 --> 00:56:33,240 much trouble not believing him so but I 1085 00:56:38,170 --> 00:56:34,980 know he had so many people there we 1086 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:38,180 never met the party went and I left and 1087 00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:41,130 he calls me back but let's go back to 1088 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:43,950 grant Cameron this is where a minute of 1089 00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:47,970 this medication I take is biological and 1090 00:56:56,090 --> 00:56:51,470 mean therapy and it's mrs. with my 1091 00:56:59,240 --> 00:56:56,100 short-term memory sometimes but grant 1092 00:57:04,300 --> 00:56:59,250 when I got off the plane for Larry's 1093 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:04,310 event and this was a really fancy 1094 00:57:10,210 --> 00:57:06,570 $250,000 party with like a hundred 1095 00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:10,220 people invited it was that exquisite and 1096 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:13,020 when I got off the plane there were 1097 00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:15,450 people there were signs led my wife and 1098 00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:18,060 I and doctor saw fit to this bus to get 1099 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:20,910 on this bus i sat down right beside this 1100 00:57:26,570 --> 00:57:24,210 this guy I reached over and I took his 1101 00:57:30,050 --> 00:57:26,580 hand said I killed him my name and said 1102 00:57:32,090 --> 00:57:30,060 hi I'm grant camera and so I met him on 1103 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:32,100 the way to Larry's the very first day 1104 00:57:39,980 --> 00:57:34,770 getting off the plane and Philadelphia 1105 00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:39,990 Airport and after that grant after the 1106 00:57:45,650 --> 00:57:42,660 party during the party grant asked if he 1107 00:57:48,670 --> 00:57:45,660 could come by and visit with me that he 1108 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:48,680 would be at this congress thing in in 1109 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:50,850 washington when they had this congress 1110 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:56,370 congressional thing right he said I'll 1111 00:58:01,490 --> 00:57:58,170 be leaving there and going to the 1112 00:58:02,030 --> 00:58:01,500 Florida to another conference so I said 1113 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:02,040 sure 1114 00:58:12,530 --> 00:58:05,970 so he calls me he stops by stays two 1115 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:12,540 days and we had a great nothing and I 1116 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:14,010 knew what was going on but I didn't want 1117 00:58:19,850 --> 00:58:16,770 to you know impress this on Brantley oh 1118 00:58:22,610 --> 00:58:19,860 that was nuts or something so two days 1119 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:22,620 went by nothing goes on third day I mean 1120 00:58:27,799 --> 00:58:26,400 the next week or three or four days 1121 00:58:30,349 --> 00:58:27,809 later grant calls me and said I'm coming 1122 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,359 back from Florida going back to Canada 1123 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:32,640 can I you mind if I stop by again I want 1124 00:58:38,269 --> 00:58:34,770 to see this burning tree want to get 1125 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:38,279 some pictures of it missus sure so when 1126 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:41,250 he comes back from Florida and I'm 1127 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:43,410 waiting outside my children are there 1128 00:58:50,359 --> 00:58:46,170 and they're half a dozen friends of 1129 00:58:52,670 --> 00:58:50,369 theirs all total grant parks at the back 1130 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:52,680 door you can drive along the side of my 1131 00:58:54,859 --> 00:58:53,130 house 1132 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:54,869 to the back patio and I was waiting on 1133 00:58:58,819 --> 00:58:57,210 him to pull up and park here and so he 1134 00:59:01,730 --> 00:58:58,829 gets out of the car it's late afternoon 1135 00:59:03,410 --> 00:59:01,740 we walked straight out about 100 yards 1136 00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:03,420 out in the back of the property to this 1137 00:59:09,769 --> 00:59:06,240 burning tree he's taking this tree that 1138 00:59:13,609 --> 00:59:09,779 caught fire caught fire on its own three 1139 00:59:16,910 --> 00:59:13,619 times so as he's taking pictures my 1140 00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,920 Labrador Nelly was laying around our 1141 00:59:22,819 --> 00:59:18,960 feet follows me everywhere I go 1142 00:59:26,029 --> 00:59:22,829 she's dead man got run over by a car and 1143 00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:26,039 that's pretty amazing the flora got 1144 00:59:34,579 --> 00:59:30,420 pictures of her after her death and it's 1145 00:59:38,180 --> 00:59:34,589 no denying so grant grant takes all 1146 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:38,190 these photos and here comes Nellie grant 1147 00:59:43,130 --> 00:59:40,890 now back to the house walking we get up 1148 00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:43,140 to the back door to the patio and all 1149 00:59:47,210 --> 00:59:45,359 the kids are there so we stopped and 1150 00:59:51,980 --> 00:59:47,220 we're talking to them Nellie's laying on 1151 00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:51,990 the ground beside us finally said grant 1152 00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:54,150 you want to get your bags go in use the 1153 00:59:59,059 --> 00:59:56,609 restroom or anything and gonna stay a 1154 01:00:03,799 --> 00:59:59,069 couple days and he's like yes so he 1155 01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,809 turns to go towards the back door which 1156 01:00:07,309 --> 01:00:06,480 is 20 feet away or less and he's in 1157 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:07,319 front of me 1158 01:00:12,109 --> 01:00:09,450 Nellie is laying on the ground beside 1159 01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:12,119 him something happened paranormal 1160 01:00:20,089 --> 01:00:14,609 because all we can say for this gulp 1161 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:20,099 when she stands up something and we 1162 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:27,770 believe it was just for something to 1163 01:00:32,089 --> 01:00:30,210 tell me something let's just say that 1164 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:32,099 this is what the people involved said it 1165 01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:36,450 was all a message for you so when Nellie 1166 01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:37,980 stands up and walk 1167 01:00:43,220 --> 01:00:40,590 the grant turns and walks to the door 1168 01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:43,230 Nelly stands up and tries to go by grant 1169 01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:45,359 and beat him to the door you know dogs 1170 01:00:51,140 --> 01:00:47,070 are one of Russians when I being going 1171 01:00:52,940 --> 01:00:51,150 oh well the minute she did that we don't 1172 01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:52,950 know what happened but all of a sudden 1173 01:01:00,250 --> 01:00:56,400 she's her neck on the side of right side 1174 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:00,260 of her neck a hole appeared the size of 1175 01:01:06,980 --> 01:01:03,330 Inchon inch and a half hole right across 1176 01:01:10,790 --> 01:01:06,990 her blood vein jugular vein and blood 1177 01:01:13,820 --> 01:01:10,800 was shooting out of her neck everywhere 1178 01:01:17,450 --> 01:01:13,830 it went by grant got blood all over his 1179 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:17,460 jeans and shoes the patio she ran in the 1180 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:19,650 back door and I'm panicking I ran in 1181 01:01:24,020 --> 01:01:21,450 behind her and tackled her on the 1182 01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:24,030 hardwood floor blood slipping and 1183 01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:26,910 sliding I pick her up in my arms I take 1184 01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:28,740 her back outside and layer on the patio 1185 01:01:33,290 --> 01:01:30,960 and I'm looking at grants eyes or big as 1186 01:01:36,230 --> 01:01:33,300 saucers he didn't know what to think we 1187 01:01:38,420 --> 01:01:36,240 couldn't figure it out and I'm oh my god 1188 01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:38,430 she's gonna die I can't call an 1189 01:01:41,530 --> 01:01:39,960 ambulance I was going through all this 1190 01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:41,540 stuff what do we do 1191 01:01:47,420 --> 01:01:44,760 and I shouted for my sauces I go get me 1192 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:47,430 a towel something because I always 1193 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:50,130 thought you need to put compression well 1194 01:01:55,070 --> 01:01:53,010 I had my hand on her wound on her neck 1195 01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:55,080 and blood every time her heart would 1196 01:01:59,210 --> 01:01:57,390 beat blood would come up bubbling up 1197 01:02:00,770 --> 01:01:59,220 three months piercing stuff and grants 1198 01:02:04,070 --> 01:02:00,780 looking at me and looking at this 1199 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:04,080 happening and so I just kind of cried 1200 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:06,330 out Lord what do I do and all of a 1201 01:02:12,970 --> 01:02:09,450 sudden this feeling came over me and the 1202 01:02:16,070 --> 01:02:12,980 dog relaxed just instead of it being 1203 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:16,080 tensed up and and everything she just 1204 01:02:20,810 --> 01:02:18,690 kind of relaxed and I felt it when I 1205 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:20,820 picked my hand up there was no more cut 1206 01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:23,010 there was no blood there was no hole 1207 01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:29,460 there was nothing and so that's kind of 1208 01:02:34,790 --> 01:02:31,380 a short story of what happened with the 1209 01:02:37,580 --> 01:02:34,800 accounter with Grant and I and these 1210 01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:37,590 friends from Florida and other places 1211 01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:40,380 caught wind of that and said oh my this 1212 01:02:46,580 --> 01:02:43,500 was a sign for you so that put me on a 1213 01:02:48,740 --> 01:02:46,590 path for the next since then working 1214 01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:48,750 with people trying to help sick people 1215 01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:51,940 and there's been some 1216 01:02:59,550 --> 01:02:54,790 success I have to say I have people that 1217 01:03:02,070 --> 01:02:59,560 were I just can't use name but there 1218 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:02,080 were people that were sick that had 1219 01:03:09,870 --> 01:03:05,970 miracles one lady think I shared was 1220 01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:09,880 chant that the she was in a coma and 1221 01:03:15,570 --> 01:03:11,320 they didn't think she would make it 1222 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:15,580 until the next morning and one of the 1223 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:17,920 ladies called me there and panic her 1224 01:03:24,330 --> 01:03:20,610 best friend was in a coma dying and 1225 01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:24,340 asked me would do what I could and I 1226 01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:28,240 just cried out to be beans same ones 1227 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:30,790 that took microns away the same ones 1228 01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:32,530 that appear in the sky when I walk out 1229 01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:34,510 the door to skylight up and they started 1230 01:03:39,690 --> 01:03:37,870 doing about orbs but when I say orbs 1231 01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:39,700 we're talking you at those big as a 1232 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:43,270 school bus some of these and just 1233 01:03:47,730 --> 01:03:45,490 crisscross the skies some of them fly up 1234 01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:47,740 like the one over Easter within 25 feet 1235 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:50,830 and slop comes out of the sky so anyhow 1236 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:53,290 I asked these words to help this lady 1237 01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:55,690 don't know her from anything next day I 1238 01:04:02,250 --> 01:03:57,970 get a call and she woke up out of her 1239 01:04:03,810 --> 01:04:02,260 coma and another day she was home the 1240 01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:03,820 doctor said it was a miracle 1241 01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:08,830 so was it me no did it come because I 1242 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:13,300 asked I think it might have I don't take 1243 01:04:21,390 --> 01:04:19,510 any any I don't nothing is about me 1244 01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:21,400 understand it's not about me it's about 1245 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:24,790 a connection to something very special 1246 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:29,410 that hears everything we say think and 1247 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:32,050 do it knows what you think before you 1248 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:34,330 can think it and if you can't get a 1249 01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:36,370 picture of it because it won't let you 1250 01:04:41,490 --> 01:04:39,190 if you don't get a video it's because it 1251 01:04:44,370 --> 01:04:41,500 won't let a lot of the videos you see 1252 01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:44,380 out there just satellites and stuff sure 1253 01:04:51,870 --> 01:04:47,560 but if you want to if you it's got to 1254 01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:51,880 let you if this to be seen public that's 1255 01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:55,510 I know this to be true but that's about 1256 01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:57,760 all I can say there but there's people 1257 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:00,880 from Washington DC and other places that 1258 01:05:05,410 --> 01:05:04,330 had called and blow me out to help 1259 01:05:09,099 --> 01:05:05,420 children and if 1260 01:05:12,460 --> 01:05:09,109 things and so all this is totally 1261 01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:12,470 unknown by most of the whole beautiful 1262 01:05:18,370 --> 01:05:14,390 world because I've not been out seeking 1263 01:05:19,809 --> 01:05:18,380 a recognition not it's not about me I'm 1264 01:05:22,359 --> 01:05:19,819 not trying to sell books 1265 01:05:25,030 --> 01:05:22,369 and and I'll write a book eventually and 1266 01:05:28,839 --> 01:05:25,040 when I do I'm no more confident about 1267 01:05:31,539 --> 01:05:28,849 what is going on because to say you know 1268 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:31,549 what's going on the people I deal with 1269 01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:35,690 just rolls their eyes so complex in it 1270 01:05:43,260 --> 01:05:40,400 so there's nobody really knows me but I 1271 01:05:49,210 --> 01:05:43,270 do know it works off of compassion 1272 01:05:55,539 --> 01:05:49,220 vibration our senses it's listening to 1273 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:55,549 us observing us watching us 24/7 now I'm 1274 01:06:00,940 --> 01:05:58,010 more recently within the last couple of 1275 01:06:03,250 --> 01:06:00,950 months the string physicist Michio Kaku 1276 01:06:04,510 --> 01:06:03,260 had stated that it's really up to the 1277 01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:04,520 government at this point we've got 1278 01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:06,710 enough evidence it's up to their the 1279 01:06:12,359 --> 01:06:09,200 government at this point to come out and 1280 01:06:14,020 --> 01:06:12,369 prove that this phenomenon is not 1281 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:14,030 extraterrestrial in nature and when I 1282 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:16,010 say extraterrestrial I mean that in a 1283 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:19,010 very broad sense you know it's not of 1284 01:06:26,049 --> 01:06:21,410 this place of time this planet in time 1285 01:06:28,030 --> 01:06:26,059 but regardless of all that how do you 1286 01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:28,040 feel about that do you think that the 1287 01:06:31,780 --> 01:06:29,839 science needs to get more involved in 1288 01:06:33,339 --> 01:06:31,790 this sort of thing and try to study it a 1289 01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:33,349 little bit better and they get a better 1290 01:06:39,130 --> 01:06:36,710 grip on it absolutely and that's one 1291 01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:39,140 reason Tom Tom is bringing this to the 1292 01:06:45,099 --> 01:06:42,710 world to try to get more involvement and 1293 01:06:46,930 --> 01:06:45,109 more acceptance and funding and of 1294 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:46,940 course the military's saying it might be 1295 01:06:51,250 --> 01:06:49,970 hostile that's the military's thing 1296 01:06:54,579 --> 01:06:51,260 that's what they do they're gonna 1297 01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:54,589 protect us first so you know I don't see 1298 01:07:01,210 --> 01:06:58,250 anything there but I do know that it is 1299 01:07:03,099 --> 01:07:01,220 real they know it's real what it is we 1300 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:03,109 don't know but we're trying to figure it 1301 01:07:10,420 --> 01:07:05,210 out and there are a lot of scientists 1302 01:07:13,390 --> 01:07:10,430 working on it have been but I think it's 1303 01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:13,400 a whole new world I think now it's going 1304 01:07:18,010 --> 01:07:15,980 to be the debate this looks like meat 1305 01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:18,020 you said it's not about is it 1306 01:07:23,710 --> 01:07:21,220 anymore that we're past that this about 1307 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:23,720 water we're dealing with and I'm afraid 1308 01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:26,330 it's so complex we'll never figure that 1309 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:31,000 it's dimensions other dimensions layer 1310 01:07:35,980 --> 01:07:33,530 has a very short lifespan 1311 01:07:38,830 --> 01:07:35,990 some animals ten years or less some 1312 01:07:43,230 --> 01:07:38,840 creatures a week humans about 50 or 60 1313 01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:43,240 years on average worldwide and then on 1314 01:07:48,580 --> 01:07:46,300 it's been going on for millions of years 1315 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:48,590 humans have been on this planet for 1316 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:50,770 millions and millions they find 1317 01:07:56,340 --> 01:07:53,210 artifacts hundreds of millions of years 1318 01:07:58,900 --> 01:07:56,350 old and you think they figured it out no 1319 01:07:59,580 --> 01:07:58,910 we're not the first and we won't be the 1320 01:08:02,770 --> 01:07:59,590 last 1321 01:08:04,660 --> 01:08:02,780 that Dunkley oh sorry ki keep going 1322 01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:04,670 sorry about that I was just saying I 1323 01:08:09,550 --> 01:08:06,830 think if these beings are what creates a 1324 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:09,560 song what keeps us in check or keeps 1325 01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,090 like evolving it didn't happen by chance 1326 01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:15,440 anybody did think setting these their 1327 01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:19,089 head examined too complex like this 1328 01:08:27,579 --> 01:08:23,839 can't get a chicken from a dinosaur or a 1329 01:08:30,340 --> 01:08:27,589 human from an elephant or vice versa it 1330 01:08:33,730 --> 01:08:30,350 don't work that way and for them to tell 1331 01:08:36,250 --> 01:08:33,740 us that it's totally wrong so I think 1332 01:08:42,579 --> 01:08:36,260 you'll see all that disappear this 1333 01:08:44,590 --> 01:08:42,589 evolution thing and be more about of 1334 01:08:49,539 --> 01:08:44,600 course in some scientists might argue 1335 01:08:52,030 --> 01:08:49,549 that that's okay I still believe there's 1336 01:08:54,430 --> 01:08:52,040 a creator I still believe that something 1337 01:08:57,789 --> 01:08:54,440 created at all and that it's all a 1338 01:09:00,190 --> 01:08:57,799 simulation more or less that the real 1339 01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:00,200 world is the eternal world around us and 1340 01:09:06,130 --> 01:09:02,150 we're in a simulation that's more about 1341 01:09:08,079 --> 01:09:06,140 what I believe that and we're in a place 1342 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:08,089 where everything eats itself we eat 1343 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:11,930 animals and animals eat us and it's just 1344 01:09:16,570 --> 01:09:14,690 a terrible if you if you were in a video 1345 01:09:19,210 --> 01:09:16,580 game and you had to pick the world you 1346 01:09:22,539 --> 01:09:19,220 wanted to believe in or being or being 1347 01:09:26,980 --> 01:09:22,549 part of this wasn't a really nice one to 1348 01:09:31,329 --> 01:09:26,990 be the suffering the amount of suffering 1349 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:31,339 is ungodly millions died and stars and 1350 01:09:36,999 --> 01:09:34,130 butcher you know the Americans have it 1351 01:09:40,660 --> 01:09:37,009 may but for the most part it's a pretty 1352 01:09:44,050 --> 01:09:40,670 cruel world so it's awful life you know 1353 01:09:45,789 --> 01:09:44,060 yeah that's right I mean even even if 1354 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:45,799 you don't eat meat I mean beds to what 1355 01:09:51,550 --> 01:09:47,810 you have plant life is alive so you know 1356 01:09:53,709 --> 01:09:51,560 yeah exactly so all right well now that 1357 01:09:55,180 --> 01:09:53,719 to wrap up I you know I really 1358 01:09:56,859 --> 01:09:55,190 appreciate you coming on and they're 1359 01:09:58,990 --> 01:09:56,869 spending it I don't know how things are 1360 01:10:01,330 --> 01:09:59,000 I down in North Carolina today but it's 1361 01:10:03,010 --> 01:10:01,340 a beautiful day here and we don't want 1362 01:10:04,540 --> 01:10:03,020 to keep everybody inside listening and 1363 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:04,550 get outside and enjoy the day I don't 1364 01:10:09,669 --> 01:10:05,690 know how the weather is down there but 1365 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:09,679 it's beautiful here but uh for the folks 1366 01:10:13,899 --> 01:10:12,050 at home you've got some insight into all 1367 01:10:17,379 --> 01:10:13,909 this where do you think we're gonna be 1368 01:10:19,899 --> 01:10:17,389 with all this say in another six months 1369 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:19,909 twelve months so do you think we're 1370 01:10:23,109 --> 01:10:21,290 gonna be much further ahead than where 1371 01:10:26,830 --> 01:10:23,119 we're at an hour we're gonna keep 1372 01:10:29,050 --> 01:10:26,840 getting these really significant bits of 1373 01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:29,060 information drop what do you see coming 1374 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:33,619 up over the next several months they're 1375 01:10:37,570 --> 01:10:35,810 not gonna be any disclosure because I 1376 01:10:39,820 --> 01:10:37,580 mean what are we going to disclose other 1377 01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:39,830 than anything significant I think you'll 1378 01:10:44,410 --> 01:10:42,080 have it now most from here in there and 1379 01:10:49,390 --> 01:10:44,420 tom has some pretty amazing stuff coming 1380 01:10:52,359 --> 01:10:49,400 up put us all a work in progress it's 1381 01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:52,369 just but yeah we're getting there 1382 01:11:02,410 --> 01:10:59,679 getting closer to I would say mainstream 1383 01:11:06,339 --> 01:11:02,420 understanding that there is something 1384 01:11:10,419 --> 01:11:06,349 out there I know that's that's a whole 1385 01:11:12,669 --> 01:11:10,429 another story walk honey and you 1386 01:11:15,850 --> 01:11:12,679 basically think that the increased 1387 01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:15,860 public acceptance as a result of to the 1388 01:11:20,410 --> 01:11:18,800 Stars Academy and the cattle I mean I'm 1389 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:20,420 assuming you you think that's generally 1390 01:11:25,209 --> 01:11:23,210 a positive absolutely I do 1391 01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,219 we've never learned what we're dealing 1392 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:27,440 with or bring attention to it it was big 1393 01:11:34,810 --> 01:11:31,010 talk I'm still on where would we be 1394 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:34,820 without about two stars today would 1395 01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:37,610 still be fighting over are the 1396 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:46,640 but this tom has brought a lot too front 1397 01:11:54,050 --> 01:11:49,650 and center and he deserves recognition 1398 01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:54,060 for I truly say that it's made my life 1399 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:54,719 better 1400 01:12:00,379 --> 01:11:56,850 this made the people around me more 1401 01:12:01,310 --> 01:12:00,389 accepting less ridicule I thank them for 1402 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:01,320 that 1403 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:04,530 now people come up to me and like man 1404 01:12:13,580 --> 01:12:09,090 you're yeah they won't apologize a lot 1405 01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:13,590 of people so that's the positive thing 1406 01:12:21,649 --> 01:12:18,480 that's coming and it's just a whole new 1407 01:12:25,090 --> 01:12:21,659 world and I think as people become more 1408 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:25,100 aware of this it becomes more aware of 1409 01:12:36,740 --> 01:12:33,530 us and will begin to appear more likely 1410 01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:36,750 an old friend from Cape Canaveral told 1411 01:12:43,729 --> 01:12:40,020 me because I asked him I says sir why is 1412 01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:43,739 it when I go to visit people a group say 1413 01:12:50,209 --> 01:12:46,800 and I do a lot of group meetings with a 1414 01:12:52,189 --> 01:12:50,219 little group of ladies that has a sick 1415 01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:52,199 friend that calls me would you come 1416 01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:54,179 Saturday night two hours from here 1417 01:13:01,280 --> 01:12:56,880 they'll fix dinner and then cake and 1418 01:13:02,899 --> 01:13:01,290 coffee and we'll hook this friend gets a 1419 01:13:05,780 --> 01:13:02,909 blessing we're just sharing the story 1420 01:13:07,729 --> 01:13:05,790 and then all of a sudden I go home and 1421 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:07,739 they call me oh my god we got pictures 1422 01:13:13,060 --> 01:13:09,810 of this UFO that appeared in the sky 1423 01:13:16,729 --> 01:13:13,070 over my driveway or this or that just 1424 01:13:19,820 --> 01:13:16,739 people are skinning and my friend from 1425 01:13:22,879 --> 01:13:19,830 down there told me with NASA he said was 1426 01:13:28,459 --> 01:13:22,889 because there's a switch in our brain 1427 01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:28,469 like a truth which once you a person 1428 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:30,960 really believes you instead of doubting 1429 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:34,050 it they'll stop and and start to believe 1430 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:37,770 that and understand then it opens the 1431 01:13:42,890 --> 01:13:41,130 door to experience and but if you 1432 01:13:45,919 --> 01:13:42,900 totally reject it and you're negative 1433 01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:45,929 and closed-minded you never see it I 1434 01:13:50,959 --> 01:13:48,480 promise you I can bring people here that 1435 01:13:52,230 --> 01:13:50,969 are negative to my houses or not then 1436 01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:52,240 nothing will appear 1437 01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:54,790 but if they come here with excitement 1438 01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:00,400 and knowing that it is real that they 1439 01:14:05,730 --> 01:14:01,990 just want to see it well then it will 1440 01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:05,740 appear most likely and it does often I 1441 01:14:11,330 --> 01:14:08,320 mean a good friend of mine Vincent Jenna 1442 01:14:14,730 --> 01:14:11,340 he's I met him 1443 01:14:18,510 --> 01:14:14,740 George Noory in Vegas last year he lives 1444 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:18,520 in Raleigh he comes to visit and we walk 1445 01:14:23,370 --> 01:14:20,890 out the door and seven different objects 1446 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:23,380 appeared I mean immediately and went 1447 01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:27,130 zooming about in the sky and so but he's 1448 01:14:35,820 --> 01:14:30,880 the kind the person that is not denying 1449 01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:35,830 it and it's not you know a skeptic he 1450 01:14:41,790 --> 01:14:40,480 was open to it see don't it appear if it 1451 01:14:48,570 --> 01:14:41,800 doesn't just keep trying 1452 01:14:51,060 --> 01:14:48,580 oh one last question for you Chris at 1453 01:14:54,660 --> 01:14:51,070 the root of this all are we do have this 1454 01:14:57,420 --> 01:14:54,670 phenomenon and it is ambiguous it is 1455 01:15:00,000 --> 01:14:57,430 curious it doesn't manifest itself 1456 01:15:00,570 --> 01:15:00,010 before everyone it kind of picks its 1457 01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:00,580 spots 1458 01:15:05,730 --> 01:15:02,320 do you have any thoughts about that 1459 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:05,740 because this this whole phenomenon this 1460 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:07,330 whole mystery could be cleared up at a 1461 01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:09,850 heartbeat by those who are behind it 1462 01:15:13,380 --> 01:15:11,590 those are really behind it I mean not 1463 01:15:15,060 --> 01:15:13,390 that not the government or the military 1464 01:15:17,610 --> 01:15:15,070 you might be able to gather some data 1465 01:15:20,220 --> 01:15:17,620 here and there I think it easily instead 1466 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:20,230 of appearing before you in North 1467 01:15:25,050 --> 01:15:22,570 Carolina you know and you mentioned that 1468 01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:25,060 you live in kind of a rural area they 1469 01:15:28,740 --> 01:15:27,160 could easily do it there over a football 1470 01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:28,750 stadium with a hundred thousand people 1471 01:15:33,450 --> 01:15:31,120 yet they choose not to have you have any 1472 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:33,460 thoughts on that why yeah why they why 1473 01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:36,570 they have this protocol this technique 1474 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:42,310 yeah because well I think I do I look at 1475 01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:45,970 this thing and and a lot of people 1476 01:15:50,490 --> 01:15:47,470 criticize me because it they think 1477 01:15:52,860 --> 01:15:50,500 honestly believe I'm some sort of 1478 01:15:56,980 --> 01:15:52,870 religious fanatic or that I'm selling 1479 01:16:03,020 --> 01:15:59,870 it couldn't be further from the truth 1480 01:16:04,850 --> 01:16:03,030 I have been searching 10 or 12 years but 1481 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:04,860 does it mean I don't have that 1482 01:16:13,850 --> 01:16:08,250 foundation that you know I'm believe in 1483 01:16:16,340 --> 01:16:13,860 something greater but I believe it's 1484 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:16,350 about good versus evil light versus dark 1485 01:16:21,770 --> 01:16:19,290 negative and positive dislike about a 1486 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:21,780 battery a car battery this earth is just 1487 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:22,890 a dial 1488 01:16:28,850 --> 01:16:26,490 Gothel is creating electricity and we're 1489 01:16:31,310 --> 01:16:28,860 swimming in electricity I can scrub my 1490 01:16:34,460 --> 01:16:31,320 feet on the floor and touch you and send 1491 01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:34,470 the positive shot and or you can receive 1492 01:16:41,150 --> 01:16:38,640 the other end of it so the system we 1493 01:16:44,210 --> 01:16:41,160 live in is based on polarity positive 1494 01:16:47,180 --> 01:16:44,220 and negative so whatever we're dealing 1495 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:47,190 with is based the same there may be 1496 01:16:51,980 --> 01:16:49,410 other things out there that we're just 1497 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:51,990 not aware of that's coming here too 1498 01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:54,770 but there's still that good versus bad 1499 01:17:01,850 --> 01:16:59,040 you do wrong there are entities around 1500 01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:01,860 us that can infect your mind and make 1501 01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:05,280 you miserable and lose your lose make 1502 01:17:10,220 --> 01:17:08,310 you go out and do bad things still ill 1503 01:17:12,770 --> 01:17:10,230 all kinds of things and to say it 1504 01:17:16,930 --> 01:17:12,780 doesn't happen is very false I can tell 1505 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:16,940 you it's real and there's proof to it I 1506 01:17:23,330 --> 01:17:19,850 have a friend that's a annexed priest 1507 01:17:25,670 --> 01:17:23,340 that works on the disc see scroll 1508 01:17:28,130 --> 01:17:25,680 projects and he has videos when he was 1509 01:17:32,930 --> 01:17:28,140 doing exorcisms of some crazy stuff that 1510 01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:32,940 would make your skin's hair stand up but 1511 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:37,440 I don't know Frank I don't want to label 1512 01:17:43,070 --> 01:17:40,890 anything because I'm not that I really 1513 01:17:47,060 --> 01:17:43,080 believe it's worth it's about good 1514 01:17:48,530 --> 01:17:47,070 versus evil light and dark and a mix in 1515 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:48,540 between who knows 1516 01:17:53,060 --> 01:17:51,210 we've studying it just like everybody 1517 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:53,070 else and I study it with a lot of 1518 01:17:58,940 --> 01:17:57,210 scientists and very smart people and a 1519 01:18:01,820 --> 01:17:58,950 lot of times they're expecting me to 1520 01:18:03,530 --> 01:18:01,830 tell them and I'm expecting them to tell 1521 01:18:06,980 --> 01:18:03,540 me and I haven't found anybody yet that 1522 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:06,990 can tell me anything 1523 01:18:11,180 --> 01:18:08,570 [Music] 1524 01:18:14,330 --> 01:18:11,190 orbs a lot of these orbs I get pictures 1525 01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:14,340 of orbs photos and videos of orbs flying 1526 01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:17,369 around the yard some very close and in 1527 01:18:23,740 --> 01:18:21,750 those orbs are people animals some you 1528 01:18:26,270 --> 01:18:23,750 can see I'm looking at me and MIT them 1529 01:18:29,540 --> 01:18:26,280 and well who are they where the throng 1530 01:18:36,379 --> 01:18:29,550 is that the eternal world my dog is in 1531 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:36,389 one of these orbs other animals so no I 1532 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:39,570 mean to get off subject there's a lot 1533 01:18:46,879 --> 01:18:43,290 haha we can chair and maybe on another 1534 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:46,889 innovation time yeah absolutely I sure 1535 01:18:50,629 --> 01:18:48,570 do appreciate you giving us this 1536 01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:50,639 exclusive here as here you're kind of 1537 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:52,800 making your comeback and talking a 1538 01:18:56,540 --> 01:18:54,810 little bit more openly appreciate you 1539 01:18:59,560 --> 01:18:56,550 taking the time than that's spending out 1540 01:19:03,109 --> 01:18:59,570 your set a Sunday afternoon with us and 1541 01:19:04,820 --> 01:19:03,119 it was it was a blast I I'm so glad you 1542 01:19:07,129 --> 01:19:04,830 did this Chris I thank you so very much 1543 01:19:08,350 --> 01:19:07,139 well you're the first one in four or 1544 01:19:11,660 --> 01:19:08,360 five years 1545 01:19:13,070 --> 01:19:11,670 hahahahaha well yeah I know chant hooked 1546 01:19:15,260 --> 01:19:13,080 it up and that we were talking a couple 1547 01:19:17,359 --> 01:19:15,270 days ago but you know something came up 1548 01:19:18,919 --> 01:19:17,369 at the last minute but yeah I know 1549 01:19:21,379 --> 01:19:18,929 she'll be listening as soon as she gets 1550 01:19:23,450 --> 01:19:21,389 the chance and I hope everybody gives a 1551 01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:23,460 listen because it was a fascinating 1552 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:25,440 interview you shared a lot of great 1553 01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:27,690 information and good luck to you and 1554 01:19:33,410 --> 01:19:30,510 these future projects regarding the TV 1555 01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:33,420 production and that frankly whatever you 1556 01:19:38,419 --> 01:19:36,420 decide to do you know I wish you the 1557 01:19:39,229 --> 01:19:38,429 best with it thanks so much I appreciate 1558 01:19:41,780 --> 01:19:39,239 it 1559 01:19:44,060 --> 01:19:41,790 Frank and 8chan couldn't be here but 1560 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:44,070 understand yes she's here in spirit and 1561 01:19:49,339 --> 01:19:45,810 she hooked this up so thanks so much to 1562 01:19:51,260 --> 01:19:49,349 her and everybody obviously we've been 1563 01:19:52,939 --> 01:19:51,270 cutting back a little bit to maybe not 1564 01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:52,949 taking a five-year break we don't want 1565 01:19:56,089 --> 01:19:54,510 to go that long but we've been taking a 1566 01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:56,099 little bit of a break things have slowed 1567 01:20:01,490 --> 01:19:58,080 up a little bit that we've got that some 1568 01:20:03,649 --> 01:20:01,500 irons in the fire so the the rumors of 1569 01:20:06,459 --> 01:20:03,659 the show's demise has been greatly 1570 01:20:08,839 --> 01:20:06,469 exaggerated we'll be back with more and 1571 01:20:10,339 --> 01:20:08,849 everybody go out and enjoy your Sunday I 1572 01:20:11,709 --> 01:20:10,349 hope your weather is nice where you're 1573 01:20:13,629 --> 01:20:11,719 at where 1574 01:20:16,629 --> 01:20:13,639 it is here because it looks fantastic 1575 01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:16,639 outside thanks everybody you have a good